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2/26/2013 8:01:00 AM
Letter: History is clear on slavery and 2nd Amendment

Editor:

Many readers of the Verde Independent are unaware of the VI website wherein discussions take place concerning letters printed in the VI.

Such “discussions” are taking place concerning whether or not the institution of slavery played any role in the creation/adoption of the second amendment.

While I realize that far too many people rely upon very superficial readings of US history and therefore remain relatively ignorant about the relationship between the institution of slavery and the second amendment, such a relationship did exist.

For those of you with access to the internet, it is an easily verifiable fact that the institution of slavery played a significant role in the enactment of the second amendment.

Was it the singular reason for its inclusion in the Bill of Rights? No! Was it a factor in the enactment of the second amendment? Yes. Did the institution of slavery inform the debate over the second amendment? Yes.

For those of you too lazy to do your own research on this issue, here is just one source of information concerning the “militias/slave patrols” that operated in the Southern slave states prior to, during and after the enactment of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.

“In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the “slave patrols,” and they were regulated by the states.

In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed militias and even required armed militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.

As Dr. Carl T. Bogus wrote for the University of California Law Review in 1998, “The Georgia statutes required patrols, under the direction of commissioned militia officers, to examine every plantation each month and authorized them to search ‘all Negro Houses for offensive Weapons and Ammunition’ and to apprehend and give twenty lashes to any slave found outside plantation grounds.”

- From Thom Hartmann, Truth Out

If you take the time to research the issue, you will discover many, many more examples, if you do not; you will live in ignorance of the true history of the establishment of the second amendment. The choice is yours.

John Bond

Cottonwood



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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: Equal Rights For All.

John A Bond: You make/imply the following
observations occurring of the negative event,
of the gun/people control elected official, who
are about to take our 2nd amend right to own
and bear arms.

1. "...For those of you too lazy..."

2. "...While I realize that far too many people
(are) very superficial..."

3. "...you will live in ignorance of the (truth)..."

It is true that a background issue of slavery was
in place during the formation of our new country.
And it took a "Civil" War to begin the recognition
of the fact that negroes were in fact full fledge
human person... Even up to today negroes are
seeking full equality.

Now, John, one can hope you can contribute
and educate by leading the conversation of
"recognizing that pre-borns are in fact full fledge
human persons"... Lets try to head off the bad
event of a "Civil" War visiting us before we all
can recognize that pre-borns are human person.


Thanks and Good Luck,
Frank Henry
fmhenry4@netzero.com


Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: M J

I see the leftist propagandists are workin' double over time.

I wonder if they all get together, have coffee, and try and decide who is the crazier ....


Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: Peter, Yavapai County

Why it just might be relevant:

May 27, 2012 12:00 am  •  Tim Steller Arizona Daily Star Excerpt:

The Southern Poverty Law Center tracks groups it considers right-wing extremist. The center reported that the number of border-militia groups had significantly declined, in part because members' passions were being channeled into state legislatures. Now, in Arizona, they've been stymied (by the defeat of SB 1083).

But the potential expansion of border-militia activity doesn't necessarily mean violence, members and others said. Ready's rampage - in which he killed his girlfriend, her daughter, the daughter's boyfriend and their baby - was "a domestic violence tragedy" unrelated to his political and border activities, said James Turgal, the FBI special agent in charge who oversees Arizona.

The FBI was investigating Ready at the time he died. For years he participated in heavily armed border patrols, and most recently he led a group called U.S. Border Guard, made up in part of members of the National Socialist Movement, a neo-Nazi group.

Weeding out people like Ready is key to involvement with civilian border patrols, said Pat King, a rancher in the area between Three Points and Sasabe.

She has accepted help from Minuteman-movement members for years, she said. In earlier years, members went out on patrols, but more recently, they have primarily used game cameras to uncover and report illegal activity on the ranch.

"You have to be very careful of who joins your ranks, that you don't trash the whole organization," King said. "Some people can join and have their own agendas. That gets kind of frightening."


Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Yes, it's strange, isn't it, Mr. Bond. Even at the height of the Revolution, with General Washington yelling for more troops and many able-bodied free blacks willing to leave their farms and shops and traps to fight the king, some States continued to insist that only of-age, white males could join the Continental Militia. The Continental Congress wouldn't let white slave owners send white or black slaves in their place, either. They even tried to force Washington to retire the black troops he already had. I still haven't been able to figure out why this was a big enough deal to lose the War For Independence over.


Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: Mary Jane

Mr. Bond - It just doesn't add up. You seemed obsessed with finding a link between slavery and the 2nd amendment, and it just isn't there. Being so verbose and over the top with this theory does nothing for your credibility!

I would suggest you stick to crucifying the GOP over their fascist, racist agenda. You're really quite good at it!


Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: Mr. History

The Congress shall have the power…to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Law of the Union, suppress INSURRECTIONS, and repeal Invasions (U.S. Constitution Art. 1, sec. 8)

Insurrections? From where?


The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.
An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defense, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States.

I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied WHITE MALE CITIZEN of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the MILITIA, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside,...





Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: Nux Man

Mr. Bond you typed alot of words, although mostly insulting folks who's only issue is disagreeing with you, but thats ok, The 1st still stands firm (for now).
As for the one and only reference towards melding The 2nd with slavery as a direct causality the Georgia statute was a colonial decree ordered the British rulers. Many of the colonists were already in open defiance of the British, and theres a local tale in Kennesaw Ga. of a slave owner being hanged by the Brits for freeing the people he "inherited" over these kinds of "laws".
Not everybody hates the Constitution John, but thats ok, or it should be, and soon enough it may be the only thing separating us from the tyranny of liberalism.


Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Article comment by: danny montoya

I wonder if trolls will form a militia.

Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Article comment by: Danny Smith

John PLEASE the horse is dead give it up. We have the right to keep and bear arms any way you want to look at it. The Heller supreme court decision went so far as to say that includes any arms wich are in common use at whatever time in history you want to look at. Be it muskets , slingshots, ar-15s or if someone develops a hand held lazer in the future. If it is a common weapon it is covered under the 2nd amendment. Slavery is over and done and has nothing to do with todays debate.


Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Article comment by: Country boy

johnny How do slave patrols and inspections have anything to do with the second amendment?
I took the time to research it and again nothing! Nothing but Theory not one mention of historical fact ever,

As usual you are trying to twist it to your needs.
the "slang term" slave patrols had nothing to do with the second amendments construction, however you and the liberal propagandists would love to have everyone believe that it was about slaves and white men or better yet the ever popular leftist race card..
To assimilate militias and "slave patrols" is only another one of your liberal attempts that the second amendment was about race somehow.

johnny you use Dr. Carl T. Bogus as one of your main points of reference however as always you leave out the facts for the readers.

So I will give them the short facts on Bogus and Hartmann's papers.
They were their papers on "THEIR THEORY'S" not historical fact or historical record johnny !!!

People please don't believe johnny's lies.
Here is a link to a former letter that is of educated fact and not johnny's propaganda fiction.
Vicki Jo Anderson's letter
http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=36&SubSectionID=73&ArticleID=52679&TM=54145.71

And on a final note just so you all know whom johnny is using for his points of reference and information sources, allow me

Thom Hartmann,
a New York Times bestselling Award winning author and host of a nationally syndicated progressive liberal radio talk show.
"according to Talkers Magazine, America's most important liberal talker."

Dr. Carl T. Bogus,
A leader in Pro-Gun Control and universal gun confiscation measures.
Liberal commentator and writer for CNN, NY Times, USA Today, Los Angeles Times, Boston Globe, Washington Times, and the Providence Journal ETC

NEED I SAY MORE!

Again Nice try johnny and again all you post is propaganda and lies to suit your liberal left agenda.





Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Article comment by: As we have seen with Romney's stated campaign

policy--and republicants in general, they will not be limited by facts.

Ignorance is the far-right's Bliss.



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