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10/11/2011 1:05:00 PM
Letter: Majority rules, but not in Cottonwood


The Cottonwood City Council and Mayor Joens are certainly setting a great example of government for the youth of this community. I was taught that democracy is a form of government that was ruled by the majority. In your Oct. 9 article “Cottonwood gives green light to Verde Santa Fe Annexation” it was stated at the Oct. 6 Verde Santa Fe Annexation hearing that 34 people were against annexation and six in favor, yet the City Council decided to proceed with the annexation process. The Council also refused to reveal the emails for and against the annexation. Very democratic!

The Council and Mayor are role models of government in action? The majority rules, but not in Cottonwood.

David Goodhart


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Reader Comments

Posted: Thursday, October 13, 2011
Article comment by: Candace Topping

Does that mean you people will be leaving Cornville? How soon?

Posted: Thursday, October 13, 2011
Article comment by: T Bird

Maybe it's time for a referendum. If the Cottonwood residents are concerned about how this annexation may affect them, then we should have a say. Just how will this affect residents? Has anyone asked that question?

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Yes, annexation affects me and I don't live in Cottonwood or Cornville

I live in Bridgeport and I like it. Quiet little place, people mind their own business and it's on the Verde River. I don't want to be swallowed up by Cottonwood but what else is going to happen? Be a small island by ourselves?.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Dennis Bayless

I keep reading that the annexation process is democratic. I don't think that statement is correct. The process gives no voice to all who will be effected. What about the rest of the Verde Valley that is unincorporated. This process will have a great effect on those people and property owner in the County. What about the people living in Cottonwood. No one except the property owners in Rancho Santa Fe and the Cottonwood City Council have a say in whether or not the annexation will be completed. While I realize that the City Council under no legal duty to put it to the Cottonwood voters, they do have a duty to listen to their constituents. Remember when the Board of Supervisors ignored the voters and passed the new redistricting map? The Vice Mayor complained that they failed to listen to the people.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Democratic Process

Calm down folks! Many of you may not understand that all the City Council did was allow a very democratic process to move forward. If the majority of Verde Santa Fe residents are against this annexation, then it will be a dead issue. The only way this annexation will happen is if more than 50% of the property owners in Verde Santa Fe sign a petition stating that they want the annexation. If they don't get the signatures, then no annexation. So quit arguing about how many people attended the meeting. We'll all know the truth about whether the majority of Verde Sante Fe folks want this annexation when they get the chance to sign on the dotted line.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: you are forgetting

from what I understand it only took one or two people to start the process for over 950 homes so why couldn't it take 34 to 6 to stop it. If they emails were against, why weren't they put in the record, if they were all for it should have been put in the record. The question I am hearing is why when it only took a few to start it,( which the pro people had no problem doing) why wouldn't take a majority in the room to stop it from going further. Do the math

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Roger Reif

In response to the people who stated that the 34 or 35 people who spoke out against the annexation only represents about 4.5 percent of the home owners and why should they dictate the future of Verde Santa Fe.
Why is it that the 5 people who spoke in favor of the annexation and represent only .05 percent of the home owners are being allowed to dictate the future of Verde Santa Fe?
It is apparent that the majority of the people are against the process and the City of Cottonwood should have responded accordingly. Not doing so is a clear indication of what the residents of Verde Santa Fe can expect from the City if the annexation goes thru.
The petition process that will be carried out by the committee in favor of the annexation should be revised to include at least one person who is against the annexation with every group of people that is out trying to get votes. When this was mentioned at the meeting the Mayor rejected the idea. When it was requested that all homeowners be notified by mail ,thus eliminating the door knockers, that to was rejected by the Mayor.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: cogito ...

unless they had emails equaling over 51% of the ownership... it really does not matter now does it?

the meetin' was recorded and should be on the tv or the net... folks may want to watch it before they go takin' letters and comments fer' gospel...

did anyone at the meeting even request to know the # of emails for/against?

can a person refuse a request that was never made?

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: cogito ergosumatra

If the council refused to release their e-mails regarding Verde Santa Fe, you can make a public records request and get them all. They are public record. They cannot refuse to release them.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Judith Peebles

Since when is 34 people out of over 900 property owners a majority? It's not even 4% and yet they would have you believe they speak for "the majority".

The council took the only proper course of action and decided to let all the owners have a voice. If petitions are returned by more than 50% of the property owners and more than 50% of the property value then annexation will be approved by a true majority. If not, it will fail. What could be more democratic than that?

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: What would folks say if

the council had stopped the process that residents of VSF started based upon the objections of less that 10% of the residents?

seems the council is dang'ed if they do and dang'ed if they don't.

if your democracy class taught you that 10% is a majority then you best get to crackin' them books again.

like they say when you point one finger there are 3 pointing back at ya' - and that 3... is a clear majority.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Dave Alton

150 people is not a majority!
In a community with 860 property owners eligible to vote on annexation why should 34 people get to decide. Does the writer believe that if a few people yell loud that equals a majority. All the City Council did was allow all property owners in VSF have a say in annexation.

Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Article comment by: Just another example...

of our govenrment doing what THEY want to do! Forget the 99% and dictate...

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