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7/22/2014 1:28:00 PM
Letter: Thank you for setting the record straight on Mingus football camp

Editor:

A big Thank You to those who took the time to respond to my letter regarding the MUHS Football Team's trip to Irvine, California.

While the trip, in spite of your explanations regarding the finances, seems a bit excessive for a high school team, I appreciate your replies.

I would think a location here in Arizona could be found for such a camp, avoiding the need for such large personal expenses.

However, my letter got a good response and explanation and that is what I was seeking.

Now we taxpayers know about the costs.

Again, thank you for your responses.

Go Marauders!

George Edgley

Cottonwood


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014
Article comment by: By What Standard???

Mark Simmons: "But the biggest argument of all is simply this: camps like this make teams better, as proven by the best teams in our state (who opt for similar opportunities)." Should Mingus be claiming to be one of the best in the state?? Those "best teams" win championships and place kids in college.

By what measure do camps like this "make teams better?" Where's the proof of that? Based off of W-L Records, # of athletes placed in the next level, and post season success - the Football program has worsened over the past 10 years. For crying out loud, they lost to Camp Verde badly a few years ago which should never happen, and has never happened up until then! All the while investing more and more resources into the program, regardless of where those resources come from.
To quote Mark Simmons, "the biggest argument of all is simply this..." : # of kids placed into college. It's very minimal for a program that is as outspoken as guys like Mark Simmons.
While Football remains popular and valuable, there is very little proof to support it being as valuable as this town's most outspoken supporters claim it is.


Posted: Monday, July 28, 2014
Article comment by: Gray Grammarian

To It seems to me:

A quibble--if each participant in the Mingus summer football camp paid $20, one could call the T-shirts an incredible bargain, but not free.

I do, however, agree this thread contains more straw men than a bean field. Either that, or our Marauder Boosters are presenting a very poor showing of Mingus Language Arts.


Posted: Monday, July 28, 2014
Article comment by: @ it seems to me: what? Shame on who?

Maybe you were going for sarcasm or just worded the post oddly?

But why shame the boosters? They are making the ends meet so the 'taxpayers ' don't have to?

So do not shame the boosters...rather thank the boosters up down and sideways!


Posted: Friday, July 25, 2014
Article comment by: It seems to me:

Mark Simmons, Foot in mouth Again, I agree 100%, and Perhaps we just missed it? all owe George Edgley an apology for distorting his original letter and this one in an attempt to lead gullible readers away from the point.

Mr. Edgley's only error was a sin of omission: Mingus is being used for a summer football camp. Coach Young was training future Marauders out on the field this week. The cost was $20 each, and that included free T-shirts.

Go Coach Young and Mingus Administration!

Shame on you Boosters for not having the correct come-back on the tip of your tongues.


Posted: Friday, July 25, 2014
Article comment by: More Sports at MUHS Other than Football

Mark I re-read your article and I do understand what you mean about fan turn out. It just came across wrong when you put. "Football would be the last to go".
Just so you know I do enjoy a good football game played by the boys of MUHS... And No need for me to contact Kurt, that would be way too long of a conversation...


Posted: Friday, July 25, 2014
Article comment by: Mark Simmons

"More Sports",
Please re-read my message (I said "I'm not saying football is the best..."). The key word there was NOT (I love all the sports:). I was simply saying that poor fan turn-out at home football games would be devastating to all MUHS athletic programs. Please contact Kirk Waddle for clarification, and Go All Marauder Athletes!


Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2014
Article comment by: More Sports at MUHS Other than football

I'm glad Mr Edgely wrote his apology as he did have all his facts wrong. I just want to know why Mark Simmons thinks football is the most important sport at MUHS, there many other sports and community supporters of the other sports. It just happens that at football team can have more kids go out and make teams than any other sport.
Mark you should of stopped your letter at camps like this make our teams better.......


Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2014
Article comment by: Foot in mouth. Again.

Mr. Edgley,

Your letter would've been perfect if you'd have just left it at this:

"A big Thank You to those who took the time to respond to my letter regarding the MUHS Football Team's trip to Irvine, California.

Now we taxpayers know about the costs.

Again, thank you for your responses."

All the rest was off base and you'll get chastised for it. Again.

But who knows? With two of these doozies in a row, maybe that's what you're looking for.


Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2014
Article comment by: Mark Simmons

Hey Marauder supporters, apologies are inferred here thank you Mr. Edgley for setting the record straight. Regarding your outstanding issue with the Irvine camp being wasteful and excessive, I could go on and on. I have attended this camp once and the rigor is outstanding! Furthermore, a select coach gives a motivational or inspirational talk each morning, way before 99% of teen boys are awake in the US. Most players are transformed for the better as human beings, and if they are not, it's their loss. But the biggest argument of all is simply this: camps like this make teams better, as proven by the best teams in our state (who opt for similar opportunities). Let's do simple theoretical math: a poor football team = poor fan turnout = poor "gate receipts" = low athletic budget = cutting sports programs for all (football would be the last to go). I'm not saying football is the best sport on the planet, it just happens to be the one right now that sustains all other sports programs due to the number of people paying to either watch games and/or enjoy the spirit of community under "Friday night lights". Go Marauders!

Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2014
Article comment by: I agree 100%

Where is the apology? All this is is another letter questioning a program that supports the youth in our community. There needs to be an apology from you Mr. Edgley, and that's it, just an apology, no more of your negativity
against the program, just an apology!!!!!!


Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2014
Article comment by: Perhaps we just missed it ?

But maybe it was there in tiny print... something like an 'I am sorry for writing a letter that was full of uninformed mis/dis information and I really should have asked the question of the parties involved rather than trying to kick a hornets nest and then take credit for being the reason that actual facts were produced to offset my previous letter'

Was that there?
Did we miss it?
Oh it wasn't there?

Got it.





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