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10/31/2013 3:41:00 PM
Letter: Overrides help students, benefit schools


We need to support Yes on the COCSD and Mingus Overrides because it supports the children and keeps the school's solvent. If the override does not pass, you will see services and athletics (that so many students look forward to and wanting to get involved that our hard-working staff and community do through their generous hearts) be cut past the bone and possibly even gone.

You will also see salaries frozen and we do not need the salaries frozen because COCSD and Mingus Union employ many people in the Verde Valley. If the salaries are cut, the people will be struggling to make ends meet.

It also affects the economy because if people cannot afford to buy a product because they are scraping by then the business will be shut down. The overrides affect our community because it will help keep the schools open with many of the programs that students enjoy. Vote Yes on the override. It will help children and benefit the schools.

Derek D'Avignon


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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, November 6, 2013
Article comment by: Dear Mr. Smith

I'm sure it must be very nice to be in a position where you can clearly state your opinion, regardless of its popularity, with no worries about the repercussions on your life. However, many people are not in that position. Being able to post like this gives us a freedom that we wouldnt otherwise have. Please try not to judge too harshly when someone uses a false name here.

Posted: Wednesday, November 6, 2013
Article comment by: Kristie Tuell

I am thankful to live in a community where our students come first! Thank you for supporting our kids and voting YES!

Posted: Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Well, Mr. Smith, you may think I should add the weight of my elevated position to my opinion of what I've observed and read about C-OCSD's administration over the last 5 years. But I don't.

As far as real support for my opinion is concerned, why not start with "U'Ren takes a year-end look back and ahead" VI 12/26/12? See you there.

Posted: Monday, November 4, 2013
Article comment by: That is such bull!

No on C-OC "says continuing these programs for our children is not important" The community ponied up for our students over and over and over. If the powers call it that it's because they don't want to admit they did a bad job for our students

You better look at that chart again too. Clarkdale-Jerome increased dollars in the classroom too and Flag, Sedona, Prescott, Humboldt are still above C-OC. And look at 2009! The cuts started in 2008!

VOTE NO FOR THE KIDS! -- Donny Brooks

Posted: Sunday, November 3, 2013
Article comment by: Kristie Tuell

Please make sure that you have facts and evidence to back up your comments. I have worked for COCSD for 15+ years and cannot think of a time where funds were misused or not spent in the best interest of our students. Yes, our teachers are paid less than MUHS, but MUHS is also given more money per student than our elementary district.
It is my hope that regardless of what you think about how our district is spending money that you will vote YES for our students. I believe that COCSD and MUHS have the best interest of our students in mind when asking for this override! VOTE YES FOR THE KIDS!

Posted: Sunday, November 3, 2013
Article comment by: Nothing but the Truth!

Okay, lets try this one more time for those of you who are just reading the above responses for the first time. (They have been posted repeatedly to every letter in support of the override.)

COCSD will never approach what Mingus does for dollars in the classroom. COCSD has 5 campuses Mingus has 1. COCSD must provide for a principal, librarian, secretaries, etc at each campus which pulls down the dollars in the classroom percentage. Unless COCSD closes 4 campuses, and moves them onto one (which we know the community does not want), then the percentages will always be below Mingus'.
What is important to look at is that while most area districts saw their dollars in the classroom percentages drop last year, both Mingus and COCSD showed an increase.

These districts are preserving programs in spite of some horrific budget cuts from the State the last few years. A "yes" vote for the students lets them know education is important to you. A "no" vote speaks for itself. It does not "teach the administration a lesson," it says continuing these programs for our children is not important. Think and ask questions from the districts (not on here) before you vote.
The two previous posters have been very vocal in their "Yes to Mingus, no to COCSD" mantra. If the override does not pass, I expect to see you at the December board meeting offering your solutions. I will be there!

Posted: Saturday, November 2, 2013
Article comment by: Vote YES for Mingus And NO for COCSD

Mingus will use the $$$ in the classroom where it belongs. COCSD will use the $$$$ for more administrative costs. They already rank last in expenditures for classrooms.

Mingus pays their teachers an average of $10,000 more a year than COCSD. What is COCSD doing with their $$$ that a teacher with a masters degree starts at less than $30,000 a year?

Posted: Saturday, November 2, 2013
Article comment by: Darold Smith

@itsy bitsy spider

I wonder where you get your facts concerning the excess spending at C-OCSD?
Would you mind publishing them so we can all see them rather than just take your word for it.
Also would mind using your real name to what you write rather than using an anonymous name that you hide behind. Using your real name gives credence to what you say.
Thank you,

Darold Smith

Posted: Saturday, November 2, 2013
Article comment by: Slater slater

Overrides are Overrides.You override the
budget then you've overridin the budget.
Lost anyone yet? Good
Long story short,If you override the bus it's
going to cost more.

Posted: Saturday, November 2, 2013
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Nonsense, Mr. D'Avignon, it's time to stop pretending all overrides are created equal.

Renewal of Mingus High School's override will help it continue to use those funds for extra curricular activities and to avoid overcrowding classrooms.

However, renewal of C-OCSD's override would only encourage it to continue to short the students in favor of administrative excesses.

Posted: Friday, November 1, 2013
Article comment by: Get facts and vote no for COCSD

Get the facts before you vote, and you will see that Mingus is making good use of its tax money but the COCSD is not.

Financial audits from the state show Mingus puts a much higher percentage of money into the classroom than the COCSD does.

Their priorities are with teachers and students, and their results show it.

Different story at the COCSD. Classroom spending at an all time low and trending lower.

Money you intend to be used in the classroom is instead siphoned off for inflated administrator salaries, travel expenses for school board members and administrators, and such wasteful items as PR campaigns that do not help kids or teachers.

Even with override in place the COCSD still has cut funding for teacher supplies, nurses, sports, counselors. So we know they are not using their funding wisely.

Vote to improve education, not to stimulate the local economy. Mingus is doing well. The COCSD is not.

YES for Mingus. Until they get their act together, the COCSD deserves a NO vote.

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