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4/2/2013 1:05:00 PM
Letter: Illegals know now is time to cash in on amnesty

Editor:

With the help of a complicit news media, and the typical low-information voter, the Democrats have successfully pinned the lack of a “comprehensive” immigration bill on Republicans.

Even after the unions scuttled the near-historic agreement in 2006, during the Bush administration, no one gave credit to those individuals who came so close.

It is with this assurance that they will escape blame that President Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano can so openly undermine current efforts to come up with a bill that can pass both Houses. Both Obama and Napolitano have made public statements that they do not want a bill that ties reform in any way to border security.

It is obvious why the president does not want immigration reform to pass. Once passed, it can’t be used as an issue against the Republicans in the 2014 Congressional elections. Ms. Napolitano is doing her best to help make sure the president gets what he wants. Both know that without a border security agreement, reform is dead in the water. That is why Napolitano scrapped the only measuring device available for estimating the number of illegals crossing our borders each year.

It is how she is able to maintain that “our borders are more secure than they have ever been” with a straight face. Previously, the government “estimated the number of miles of the border that were under ‘operational control.” By changing the method of counting (now only those apprehended and detained are counted - not the catch-and-release or the ones spotted but not apprehended) and then pretending that enforcement has slowed the number of attempts - not the lack of jobs due to recession, improved economics in Mexico, and the demographics of fewer young people in Mexico and Latin America.

As pointed out by Byron York’s op-ed piece and an article in the Wall Street Journal, Napolitano promised a new, “better” measure- the Border Condition Index (BCI). But, during the hearings held by the House Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security, a dirty little secret was exposed. Mark Borkowski, a Homeland Security technology official, told the committee that, not only had HSA not produced a BCI after three years, but it had never been the intention to produce an actual measuring device. And, of course, without a measuring device, the Secretary can produce any figure that is convenient to her cause - the scuttling of immigration reform.

As a final note, late breaking news from TownHall.com on Monday was a report that Border Patrol agents are reporting a sudden surge (nearly double) in the number of illegal border crossings in the last few weeks. The reason?

They want to be inside the U.S. on the off-chance that a bill actually does pass so they can cash in on the amnesty that will surely come with passage.

Jim Barber

Camp Verde


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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013
Article comment by: Matthew Holmes

Mr. Bond, You get a lot of undue criticism on here, and for the most part I think you know what you are talking about and are presenting a fairly accurate view of history. I disagree, however, that an anti-illegal-immigration stance necessarily equates to racism. Have you queried our local indigenous peoples about their views on illegal immigration? Would be interesting to know, but the few I've conversed with are against illegal immigration.

As someone with a degree in history I feel where you are coming from, but the whole Euro-American immigration debate is well in the past and even most Native Americans understand this, it is just the reality we all have to deal with. This reality is called the USA and, for better or worse, these geo-political borders are not going away anytime soon. For me it boils down to this: do our resources go to my son who is a legal citizen or to someone's kid who was brought illegally across the border? A line has to be drawn somewhere, and the powers that be have drawn that line between Mexico and the USA. I guess for some on here this makes me a National Socialist Neo-Nazi racist hate-monger, nevermind that I voted for Obama twice and that two of my best friends are a couple, he is Mexican and she is Navajo. Oh, and yes, I'm a proud descendant of a Confederate soldier, who became one of the first white pioneers in the Verde Valley.

I wish that some of our Euro-American had not committed mass genocide, not only here but all over the planet. But wishing this will not change the past. Where do we go from here? Illegal immigration does divert resources from citizens to non-citizens, cheats those who have gone through the long arduous legal process of becoming citizens, deflates wages and deprives jobs for legal citizens, and in general creates much more strain on our already strained education, health-care, and other social services.


Posted: Friday, April 12, 2013
Article comment by: Tom Babbitt

One could replace all of the National Socialists in the Verde Valley with a tape recorder that says four things. Immigration, Abortion, Gun Control and Drugs. These people are just plain broken citizens.

Posted: Friday, April 12, 2013
Article comment by: Gary wilson

Has Nothing To Do With The "Land " Or "Who Was Here First".... It's All About Them Coming Here to work For A Tenth Of What The Average American Should Be Making Per Hour ....And The Dirt bag Employers That Are Hiring Them To work For " Kibbles And Bits " Just So They Can Have Fatter Wallets...!!

Posted: Thursday, April 11, 2013
Article comment by: It seems to me:

Jim Barber's facts are correct, but his conclusions aren't. The Democrats did nothing to help pass the Bush Administration's immigration reform. But they didn't kill it. The Republicans did.

Posted: Sunday, April 7, 2013
Article comment by: M J

Re: Mr. Bond
I STILL can't stop laughing ...... you just keeping digging a deeper and deeper hole. HaHaHaHaHaHa
Thank you ... I needed a good laugh!



Posted: Saturday, April 6, 2013
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Welcome back, Mr. Bond. These threads get a bit stodgy without you.

And for a change I agree with your logic. If the Atlantic tribes had planned ahead and implemented strategic management of the European Migration, instead of randomly aiding and fighting it, we'd have a different--possibly better--nation today.

Unfortunately, they were too busy controlling each other's populations, Just like the tribes in the district of Columbia today.


Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013
Article comment by: John A. Bond

"Were the Mexicans the "original owners of the land" who were displaced by the Mexican-American War?"

You are correct, it was an unfortunate choice of words and completely inaccurate, too. The Mexicans took the land from the indigenous native tribes, too.

They were not the original owners of the land, and I stand corrected.

A better choice of words would have been the "ancestors" of todays illegal immigrants who possessed the land when the United States, by force of arms, took the land from them .


Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013
Article comment by: John A. Bond

I did not "make a mistake". If you had read my comment thoroughly, supposing you did read the entire comment and possess sufficient reading comprehension to fully understand my comment, you would recognize that I spoke of the influx of illegal immigration in modern times into those states politically referred to as "Red States" in modern American discourse.

It is primarily the states of Texas and Arizona that experience the most illegal immigration from Mexico.

You, whomever you are, sought to challenge the validity of my comment by making a rather trite and disengenuous remark inferrring that I erred concerning Arizona belonging to the confederacy.

I did not err. I was fully aware that Arizona was a territory in 1861. The salient point I was making was that Arizona joined the confederacy and supported the secession from the union.

The primary reason stated in every article of secession from those states that seceded from the union, was SLAVERY. Google Articles of Secession for yourself and read those individual articles of secession.

It was the premier "states rights issue" for those states.

Arizona, although a territory, felt a kinship with those slave states and seceded from the union and joined the confederacy.

If you did not understand my point that is your problem.

I asserted that racism plays a major role in the current debate over illegal immigration from those who most fanatically and vociferously oppose it.

It is not about "legal" or "illegal" it is about racism and elitism.

Racism is a pernicious evil.

Reread my comment and then after fully digesting it, you will see that your overt desire to criticize me, led you to a rather pathetic attempt to undermine my comment.

I duly note your determination to challenge anything you can find in it for your own personal reasons.

I am satisfied of your intent and I recognize it for what it is: a juvenile attempt to undermine a masterful comment that you did not fully comprehend or agree with. because you are either in denial or for some other obtuse reason.

I hope this answers your question. I called you out for your deliberate misreprentation and you felt offended because obviously you were completely unaware that Arizona, as a territory, seceeded from the union.

Your historical ignorance speaks for itself.


Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013
Article comment by: History Wrecktomy

Were the Mexicans the "original owners of the land" who were displaced by the Mexican-American War? I believe there are Apache, Hopi, Zuni, Yavapai, and a few others who would disagree.

The Mexicans who owned land in what became Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas were settlers of Spanish descent. Land grants were either from the Spanish King or the Mexican government. As part of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, most of those grants were recognized by the United States. And most of the estimated 80,000 Mexican citizens who suddenly found themselves in the U.S. chose to remain here as U.S. citizens. Outspoken leftist activists calling for the 'return' of land to Mexico have no legitimate claim to the land.


Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013
Article comment by: @ John Bond

That doesn't make it a state. What? Is simply admitting an error against your religion?

Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013
Article comment by: The Cowpoke

Mr. Bond what drivel you preach. I take my hat off to you you are consistent.

Posted: Thursday, April 4, 2013
Article comment by: Maybe you missed something

Dale Ruff,

Do you honestly think you are the only 'Dale' in town?

Don't flatter yourself, they are talking about 76 year old Dale Gohr from Clarkdale.


Posted: Thursday, April 4, 2013
Article comment by: @ Dale RUFF? .

If 'breath of air' were the only one making that observation... then you might almost have a logical argument, but they are not... seems the issue is far wider that a single brain diseased person who articulated the sentiment fairly well.

As far as your claim of writing your first post a little over a week ago...? Really? there is this thing called google... if you search for 'verdenews dale gohr' you get a nice list of many posts... 3-16-13,12-13-12,2-9-13,11-6-12,11-27-12... and the list goes on... and on.

Do you really want to claim that your first post was a little over a week ago? Really?

If so that might be a stunning insight into what we are dealing with at its core.

Either a possible health issue or just a pathological denial of reality?

Either way.. get help!


Posted: Thursday, April 4, 2013
Article comment by: John A. Bond

I suggest you google, Articles of Secession for the "Arizona Territory".

In 1861, Arizona was a territory, and it seceded from the Union and joined the Confederate States of America.

It was short-lived. The Union army soon after occupied the Arizona territory. Google it for yourselves


Posted: Thursday, April 4, 2013
Article comment by: Matthew Holmes

@...breath of air: You have articulated beautifully what I have been wanting to say for some time now, thank you...


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