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12/31/2012 1:01:00 PM
Letter: Enforce the 20,000 gun laws already on America’s books

Editor:

I am an Independent voter and a supporter of the US Constitution. I am neither a “mass murderer” nor a “wannabe.” I am a disabled American veteran and a member of the NRA. I was a member of the US Air Force from 1967 until 1971, during the Vietnam War, and received an honorable discharge. I do not “go out in the woods to play war or shoot pictures of people.” War is not a game. I have gone through training to obtain my Arizona concealed weapons permit. Hunting, marksmanship training and target shooting are major hobbies for millions of law abiding citizens. Firearm collecting is also part of that hobby as well as reloading, gunsmithing and woodworking.

Before we let the government make more “gun control” laws that they are unable to enforce, we must be sure they are enforcing the 20,000 already on the books. Recently, in New York, a felon started a fire to lure firemen so he could shoot and kill them. When the firemen arrived, he murdered two and wounded two others. New York, Chicago and Washington DC have some of the strictest gun control laws on their books, but this didn’t prevent a felon in New York, who is barred from owning a firearm, from obtaining one. We need to work on the mental side of the equation and get the mentally ill help. No law will ever prevent a mentally ill person from committing crimes.

Gun bans have been tried numerous times and failed. You cannot stop an irrational act. If a person wants to commit such an horrendous act, they will do so, gun or no gun. People who carry firearms legally are not the problem, but most likely the deterrent. How is the national ban on firearms in the United States of Mexico working out for their citizens? Private individuals in Mexico cannot own a gun to protect or defend themselves and their families from criminals and the cartels.

You will never keep guns out of the hands of criminals and outlaws. Remember, it takes a good man or woman with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. “Gun Free” zones do not work. To the bad guys, the sign means there is no one armed inside, so come on in. This goes for schools, banks, restaurants, theaters and businesses who post “No Firearms Allowed” signs to invite the bad guys in to rob or shoot patrons and workers alike because firearms are banned and no one inside is able to defend themselves.

If I remember correctly, in 2009 and again in 2011, President Obama took the money designated for security in our schools and transferred it to the Department of Homeland Security. This resulted in removing police officers from schools. But not from the school where Obama’s children are enrolled. Not only are security officers on duty there, but also the US Secret Service. Transfer the money back from Homeland Security and return it to the schools where it belongs. Volunteers In Protection are needed in our schools now. My question: Are there enough retired men and women living in Yavapai County who have an Arizona CWP willing to volunteer their services for several hours a week to protect our school children?

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” - Thomas Jefferson

Fred Roberts

Lake Montezuma





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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Article comment by: Phil Falbo

@ Jasmine Tea

Your unprovable claim, "...most liberals do not have the intellectual honesty..." proves only one thing: You don't have any intellectual honesty.


Posted: Monday, January 7, 2013
Article comment by: Jasmine Tea

Nancy Pelosi and Obama now say they need MORE tax revenue.

We all knew that taxing just the ‘rich’ would not solve the problem… that was the first step to taxing everyone.

The parallel I am making is, that what the liberals call sensible legislation regarding guns is the first step to a total gun ban.

The question of need is very irrelevant… I could make a long list of things that nobody needs that are harmful, but most liberals do not have the intellectual honesty to engage in that conversation.

I prefer to err on the side of liberty, freedom and treating other members of society as I want to be treated.


Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: DragonMaster 6

This thread was immediately pulled from the M.S.N.B.C. news on internet this morning which was a written portion of the porposal to give up the Second Ammendment right to decide to politicians!!! Can anyone guess where this is going?
"After a bloody 2012, some in Congress are seeking to centralize records on gun owners nationwide — Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., for example, has proposed legislation that would create a national gun registry, collecting IDs, photos and fingerprints of owners of most legal weapons."


Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: DragonMaster 6

@ Article comment by: Ed Wood:
We do not know which part of the twilight zone you originated from but you seem to speak as a political hack for Diane Feinstein whose new legislation being prepared as a Federal Registry for all firearms to be required immediately [if -when] passed currently in the N.B.C. news and presented on the first day of re-convening! Are you totally un-observational? The true Government is the American Constitution and Bill of Right's not someone who is functioning from greed and fear as our politicians seeking power over the powerless to compensate for their own powerlessness! Ed you have demonstrated a "Sheeples personality Dys-function" in our opinion! Did you also read in the N.B.C. news last night about the bill to be introduced to not allow citizens to, "Satorize politicians?" Where do you think this is all leading and are you certain you really want to go there?


Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: Take A. Look

at empirical evidence. The city of Chicago has the most numerous and most strict gun laws and is our president's "blueprint" for national legislation. How is that city's record? How about 532 homicides and over 400 school children shot in 2012. Not to mention the 2,670 shooting victims in that same year. These figures are easy to verify with a simple Google search. Try the blog Crime in Chicago.

How many times must it be repeated that most all of these mass shootings take place in an area where firearms are forbidden. Criminals are deterred by armed force. This is a fact. Disarming people who are not criminals makes us all less safe. This is a fact. The rhetoric about "reasonable restrictions" ignores the fact that criminals will do what they want and non-criminals need no restrictions.


Posted: Thursday, January 3, 2013
Article comment by: Response To

Thank You
Was a time that you never even had a background check to buy a gun. You paid the money and walked out with the gun. If you didn't want to go in a store it was very simple you bought your gun mail order. You started shooting long before your teens. Me I was 7. If hunting season you kept a gun in your car while at school, Funny their never was a problem
Myself I don't want to have a Government that wants to disarm the people but has no problem arming the gangs and drug cartels saying who can and who can't be armed


Posted: Thursday, January 3, 2013
Article comment by: Big Sky Lady

Ed, first of all, I absolutely resent you calling Mr. Roberts a "right wing nut job". This man is a patriot and he very eloquently expressed his opinion. Second of all, I think you're the nut job. You are rude and obviously, a progressive liberal. Believe me, we are not "deluded" about tyranny. Our eyes are open. We are seeing an attempt to remove our God given rights one piece at a time. That includes our right to own firearms (NOT WEAPONS, ED). You just don't get it, do you? More gun laws and restrictions for the law abiding citizens are not going to stop the evildoers from committing crimes. All it's going to do is leave the good guys unprotected. Mr. Roberts is 100% right. Enforce the laws. That's the place to start.

Posted: Thursday, January 3, 2013
Article comment by: M J

I fear the gubmint more than I fear some nut with a gun.

"As a matter of fact I was dropped on my head while a child and hit on the head with several rocks, too."
December 29, 2012 John A. Bond


Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Article comment by: Thank You


Mr. Fred Roberts, as a disabled USAF veteran myself I thank you for your service and the well thought out and sensible letter to this forum. I whole heartedly agree with you and as you probably know MOST in our community do also. We know what safe and responsible gun ownership is about. Most if not all gun related deaths are caused by criminals, mentally challenged, alcohol and drugs or gangs. In other gun related accidents it's the lack of training and or irresponsibility. Either way none of these types of people should be allowed to own a gun and that's where the problem lies. To all the responsible gun owners out there I say great job and protect yourself and your families with whatever it takes! Have a GREAT 2013!!!


Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Article comment by: Danny Smith

Sorry Ed Wood but you are wrong on every level. It is not about judgement ,fear and hate. It is about freedom and choice. Who will decide what is reasonable, our government, give me a break. It is about our federal government way overstepping their authority to tell us what we want or need. And it is not just about guns, it is about our traditional and historic way of life. After all you can buy a 4 cylinder Yugo or you can by a fancy new corvette. Yugo's will get you where you want to go so now a corvette is illegal? Why couldn't the government step in and say our highest speed limit is 85 (Texas) so any car that can go over 85 is illegal, where does it stop? It is about freedom of choice and personal responsibility. Every year our rights slowly disappear and it is time to put a stop to it. And if you are niave enough to believe our rights are not disappearing then there is no hope for you. It is NOT the governments job to decide what i want or need.

Posted: Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Article comment by: As I

have said many many times and make no mistake about this. If they come after my AK47s today tomorrow it will be my other guns. People its has nothing to do with school shootings or your safety It only has to do with Government being able to control the masses better

Posted: Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Article comment by: Ed Wood

There is absolutely no risk, none, zero, nada, that the US government will take away any fundamental gun rights cherished by reasonable sportsmen and gun owners. Nothing will stop us from blasting away intruders or carrying our concealed weapons around for protection (including into schools and bars here in good old Arizona). We love our guns so. On the other hand, right wing nut jobs, like Fred here, love to scare people into believing lies about reasonable gun restrictions because, well, they're right wing nut jobs who breed in the poisoned swill of judgment, fear and hate. For example, outlawing assault rifles is a good idea that won't limit the average person's use and enjoyment of their weapon. The tiny minority of people who are willing to take up arms against our government based on delusions about "tyranny" will be crushed, and rightfully so, regardless of the size of their arsenal. This tiny minority is not comprised of patriots. They are traitors.



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