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4/19/2014 2:46:00 PM
Letter: Guns are not the problem

Editor:

When I was in grade school we were given the opportunity to shoot .22 caliber rifles. We were taught responsibility and respect for guns. We were not taught to fear guns. As far as I know, no one who took that class has been responsible for school shootings.

The problem with our country is not guns. The problem is no sense of right and wrong. We live in a world where anything goes. Children in middle schools and high schools send nude pictures of themselves to each other. It is no longer illegal to enter our country illegally. Isn't that strange?

I'm not cutting down single parents, but I think life would be a lot easier if there were a mother and father to help share and raise the kids. Some schools stopped giving grades because they do not want to offend students who may not do well.

We no longer understand responsibility. People think they should have what everybody else has no matter if they worked for it or not. The concept of earning something no longer exists. Kids think they are abused if they do not get a car on their 16th birthday.

We will never stop people from shooting each other until we change society.

Brian Carlson

Sedona




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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, May 6, 2014
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Not to my knowledge, Mr. Wacka. According to the most recent rates, 2012, Sweden has more rapes per 100,000 than any countries except Lesotho and Trinidad/Tobago. U.S.Dept. of Justice figures put the U.S. at almost half Sweden's 53.2, and all I predicted was that we'd exceed that figure.

Posted: Sunday, May 4, 2014
Article comment by: Wacka Wacka

@ itsy bitsy Spider

Canada has a higher rape statistic than Sweden.


Posted: Saturday, May 3, 2014
Article comment by: Safety First

Two other restrictions on guns should be considered.

1. Minors should not be allowed to carry weapons outside a designated firing range or gun education center. Why should we allow deadly weapons carried by people deemed too young to buy tobacco or alcohol?

2. No one with a.BAC of .08 or more should be allowed to carry firearms. No one carrying a firearm should be allowed to purchase alcohol. Every year I hear about someone losing a horse to an impaired elk or deer hunter. And we also hear about hunters accidentally shooting each other.


Posted: Saturday, May 3, 2014
Article comment by: V & V

OK then, No guns on the planet? Back to basics. Sticks and Stones.

Posted: Saturday, May 3, 2014
Article comment by: Me? I'd buy

a Taser factory and all the hand grenades I could find.

pf


Posted: Saturday, May 3, 2014
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Thanks for a creative exercise, Mr. Nye. Too bad more web crawlers haven't participated.
IMO: For sure, rape in the U.S. would soar to at least the rate in Sweden. But then, some ultra-repressive military dictatorships might be overthrown by sheer weight of oppressed majorities.
I'm not sure the ladies would consider that a fair trade-off, but the aliens might. We could also stop howling about Putin's invasion of the Ukraine. He's not fool enough to switch to nukes. But on the other hand, Pakistan might be.

You forgot fertilizer and pressure cookers, Mr. Fasst. People bent on mass mayhem would be inclined to trade up rather than down. .


Posted: Thursday, May 1, 2014
Article comment by: nutso fasst

Interesting challenge, Carl. Let's visualize a few scenarios.

Many less-developed areas of the world are dominated by violent groups vying for power, the balance of which depends on firearms. Groups armed with less lethal weaponry would seize an opportunity and slaughter would ensue. Imagine Rwanda.

Nations with the largest standing armies could use "restoration of order" as an excuse to overwhelm neighbors. Imagine Kim Jung-un as the not-so-dear leader of a united Korea.

With guards disarmed, prisons would be overrun and inmates released. Imagine a violent criminal influx into cities with police and law-abiding citizens disarmed.

Gangs could rob, rape, and kidnap with relative impunity. (There are already areas of the U.S. where police don't patrol and lawlessness dominates, and they are all in areas with restricted legal ownership of guns.)

Attempted murders and suicides would result in fewer deaths but more disablements.

Knives, swords, crossbows, and baseball bats would fly off retailers' shelves. And since firearms technology would not suddenly disappear, it would create a tremendous business opportunity in replacing what was lost.


Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014
Article comment by: Carl Nye

Here's a question to both pro-gun and anti-gun readers:

Imagine for a moment that somehow (alien technology, for example) in the time it takes to snap your fingers, every single gun, of every size, every shape, ALL guns on the planet suddenly dematerialized. Gone.

Suddenly no one, not a law-abiding citizen, not a criminal, not any police force, not any military group, NO ONE had a gun.

The question for you to ponder is, what do you think would happen next? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this scenario.


Posted: Monday, April 28, 2014
Article comment by: nutso fasst

@ 'Correction':

In 2010 there were more than 2,800,000 people killed or injured in motor vehicle crashes.

There were 113,068 people killed or injured by firearms, 14,161 of whom were killed or injured accidently.

The accidental firearm death rate is 0.2 deaths per 100,000 people.

Now that we have irrelevant statistics out of the way, what part of Mr. Carlson's letter do you disagree with and why?

http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/nfirates2001.html
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html


Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2014
Article comment by: Just Wondering

Of Frank Lee Confused
What happened to the other 200,232,000 American gun owners you cited in your April 21 comment? Wouldn't that make a bigger militia? Or why not just reinstate the draft?


Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2014
Article comment by: J M

Mr. Bassett.

Your moronic screed must come close to setting a new record here for assumptions.

An article recently published in the AMA journal estimates that nearly seven times as many people die annually from medical malpractice as die from all the various gun deaths in the US. Other sources say it could be twice that number. If that's not perspective it's at least something to think about the next time you visit a medical practitioner.

Meanwhile, the ugliest and most destructive critter on the planet proceeds pell-mell destroying all that is truly beautiful and interesting the very essence of what makes earth the jewel of our solar system, perhaps our galaxy. If the only life left on the planet are homo sapiens and insects, twelve or fourteen Billion humans will still be telling themselves how damned "sacred" they are.

The real and present slaughter is possibly beyond your comprehension.


Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2014
Article comment by: nutso fasst

@ 'Correction':

In 2010 there were more than 2,800,000 people killed or injured in motor vehicle crashes.

There were 113,068 people killed or injured by firearms, 14,161 of whom were killed or injured accidently.

The accidental
firearm death rate is 0.2 deaths per 100,000 people.

Now that we have irrelevant statistics out of the way, what part of Mr. Carlson's letter do you disagree with and why?

http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/nfirates2001.html
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html


Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: Correction @ Lee Cali

Motor vehicle traffic deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 33,687
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.9

All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,672
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.3

Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2010, table 18  [PDF - 3.1 MB]

Recently, firearm deaths have surpassed motor vehicle deaths.


Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: @ Lee Cali

Actually, most guns are purchased to defend life and property, and the argument is against anti-gun nuts who focus on restricting the object rather than modifying human behavior (a fallacy that's been with us for thousands of years and has also given us such societal benefits as alcohol prohibition and the war on drugs).

The car/gun comparison simply underscores the fallacy of that position. Intentionally or not, cars are involved in far more injuries and deaths in the United States than guns are. Do we want to restrict private ownership of cars? Of course not. We want people to be more responsible drivers--which early driver education will accomplish far better than regulating the types and number of vehicles in people's garages. The reasons various people purchase these objects is totally beside this particular point.

@ Tired of Hypocrisy
Shooting the messenger doesn't help. This is the DNC's April talking point...May, too, if it gets enough traction.


Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: Brian Carlson

Bill Bassett, I have no problem with a background check and safety training for gun owners. Just good common sense.

Lee Cali, A car and a gun are both objects that can do no harm. It is only when you add a human being to the equation that a gun or car can kill.

I'm not sure if it really makes a difference what intention someone has when they buy a gun or a car. The person who looses their life to either a gun or a car is still dead.

As Hillary said about Americans killed in Benghazi, "At this point, what difference does it make".



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