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12/18/2012 1:03:00 PM
Letter: No surprise cement truck rolls in roundabout

Editor:

Current article in the Independent that went along with a couple of very good photos:  “Cement Truck Rolls in Roundabout:  A CTI cement truck went over a curb, clipped a light pole and rolled at Clarkdale’s Centerville Roundabout on SR89A, Thursday. The cab was upside down in the roadway, as well as one of the two cement trailers. The heavy truck went over in the same roundabout as an earlier cement truck rollover. That one occurred shortly after the Clarkdale roundabouts opened in 2007. Much of the accident was off the roadway and through traffic continued.”

Does this really surprise anyone? Riding in close to any CTI truck is dangerous. The drivers pay no attention to speed limits, do not use their turn signals, and a generally very dangerous in my opinion. Thankful that I was behind one CTI truck recently when it was using the outside left turn lane by Walgreens in Cottonwood, I thought the truck would tip over.  I would have bet on it with the speed in taking the turn.

And that brings up a question for Police Chief Jody Fanning. Why aren’t you doing something about this?

Why aren’t you insisting the sheriff’s department help out. These CTI drivers are dangerous. The company obviously has not and will not do anything about it, so maybe you gentlemen should.

Dave Woehning

Cottonwood




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Reader Comments

Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2012
Article comment by: Common Sense

I don't understand these drivers complaining about these large trucks crossing into the inside lane when negotiating the round-a-bouts.

Try driving next to a big rig in Phoenix or anywhere else for that matter. You have to use common sense when driving near trucks trying to negotiate curves. Everywhere in the world most drivers know not to drive on the inside of a curve at the same time a truck is negotiating the same curve.

Let the truck have the' right of way' going through the round-a-bouts, kinda dumb not to.


Posted: Friday, December 21, 2012
Article comment by: Just sit and watch the CTI trucks manuever the roundabouts

I did, just the other day when on Lisa St. I actually sat there watching them trying to stay in one lane as they went around the roundabout. Most of them approached the roundabout slowly, but to avoid hitting the curb, their tires all went over into the second lane just to be able to go around the sharp turn into the roundabout. Not only that, but a large motorhome had the same problem. It's clear when they put in the roundabouts they made them too small and greatly underestimated the amount of truck traffic that would be using them.

Posted: Friday, December 21, 2012
Article comment by: driver david and others... .

it is normal for larger vehicles to 'curb hop' the inside of a roundabout. that it why they normally have a sloped or mountable curb on the inside.

that should not cause a tip over though.



Posted: Friday, December 21, 2012
Article comment by: Cogito Ergosumatra

Another truck rolls over, but this time on 89A between Sedona and Cottonwood. Damned hills! We should eliminate hills... and gravel...and fog...and traffic...and sleepy drivers...and distractions...and...

Posted: Friday, December 21, 2012
Article comment by: Driver David

I see lots of tire marks on the inside curbs in the roundabouts now. It looks to me like someone in big rigs like the CTI trucks is shortcutting over the curbing. Could that be what started this truck rollingl over? Sure seems so.

Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2012
Article comment by: T.J. O'Malley

Not all truck drivers for CTI are dangerous, not all OTR drivers are dangerous, not all truck drivers are dangerous, I at one time was a trucker, I didnt like being away from home for 2-3 weeks at a time so now I work at a WWTP, I drive and operate their vac/ jet rodding truck, I have driven a tanker truck hauling bulk cement, and the only one to blame is the driver, he more than likley was going to fast for the roundabout and that is why he tipped over, I will agree that some of these people that work for CTI drive like idiots, heck for that matter so do the drivers for M and P, a company based out of phoenix, so all of you who want to say that every driver that drives for CTI, im glad that you keep count of ALL the drivers their, and not how bad they all drive, I happen to know Linda Callihans husband personally, ad with 45 yrs of turnin over a million safe free miles with out an accident is something to be very proud of, most of you would not even come close to a million miles in your life.

Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2012
Article comment by: Danny Smith

The problem is that the round a bouts are too small. This was pointed out as they were being built but was ignored. Even at 5 miles an hour it is all but impossible for a tractor trailer to stay in it's own lane.

Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2012
Article comment by: Big Talker

Hey Dave, News flash Police Chief Jody Fanning has nothing to do with a round about in CLARKDALE!!!! That would be Clarkdale PD.
If your going to complain about someone or something have your facts straight first!


Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Article comment by: Farrah E

The blame here does not need to be placed completely on CTI or there drivers, why not put some of the blame of the city of Clarkdale for giving the okay to put all of these roundabouts in such close proximity to the cement plant? Big trucks are on that road all day every day with very heavy loads and these roundabouts make it that much more difficult for CTI drivers or any other other large rig driver to maneuver that road safely and efficiantly. Slandering this company or there employees is not the way to solve the issue at hand. You or I have the capability to be just as harmful on the road as any CTI truck. It is unfortunate that this truck rolled over, but none of the public was hurt and luckily the driver was okay as well. This was not a result of wreckless driving, in fact the police report stated the driver was going 10 mph at the time of the crash, I sincerely think there is a much bigger picture here and everyone should consider that instead of throwing the blame at drivers just trying to do there job..

Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Callahan

Mr. Wain,I can't believe that you have the nerve to say that EVERY SINGLE CTI driver is dangerous on the roads. My husband has driven a truck for 45 years with NEVER an accident..guess what? He drives for CTI. When you drive with idiots on our public roads for more than a million miles and have never been in an accident, that is something to be proud of. I know he is not the only driver with this record at CTI. You need to check your facts before you bad mouth any GROUP of people. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!

Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Article comment by: Les Wain

You are right...Every single CTI driver is dangerous on the road. They tailgate, speed, don't use their signals, and have been doing this for years !! When are the police going to start stopping these horrible drivers ?? I stay away from them on the roads because they are taking your life in their hands. CTI should be investigated for these deadly drivers that they employ. Please everyone stay safe on the road and stay away from these CTI trucks. If you see any of them break the law, call the police and report it.

Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Article comment by: Gary Dean

Mr. Woehning, Don't lump all CTI drivers into one group. Although I am retired from driving, I drove for CTI for approximately 12 years. In my time with the company, I earned numerous safety awards by never having an accident nor did I ever receive a traffic citation. Of course in my entire career of 37 years and excess of 2 million miles I never had an accident nor got a ticket. But that is beside the point. The entire trucking industry has gone to Hell in a handcart. There are a LOT of drivers out there now, and NOT just CTI drivers, that should have never gotten a CDL to drive trucks. But, need I remind you, there are a lot of drivers driving passenger cars and pickup trucks that ought not be driving also.

Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Article comment by: William Elms

Jody Fanning does a great job at being our police chief... If you want to complain about CTI drivers, I think you should start calling CTI and voicing your complaints to them personally....As a police chief, there's no way he can have patrol officers, at every round-about at every hour those trucks are on the road. It's time the supervisors at CTI inforce the driving rules to there drivers. Then maybe they will start slowing down a little. But put blame where blame is due....



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