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8/24/2013 2:47:00 PM
Editorial: Kirkpatrick, Gosar make odd team

It is easy to be cynical about the seemingly cozy relationship that has arisen between Ann Kirkpatrick and Paul Gosar in this congressional term. On the national stage, they have been called the odd couple and for good reason.

They have been on opposite ends of the spectrum on the flashy issues and waged ruthless campaigns against each other when they actually faced off before the district realignment. Now they can be chummy? Really?

But it might be more helpful to look at their work together on several matters as an example of what should be going on in Washington, D.C. There are issues on which Democrats and Republicans actually agree. Their partnership on these issues actually gets work done. Imagine.

Now, these are not concerns that tantalize a jaded media or will land camera-hungry politicians face-time on the networks. To the folks here at home, though, they are important matters that need to be taken care of.

This spring Kirkpatrick and Gosar co-sponsored a bill to correct an old surveying error that affected private property in the Coconino National Forest. Right now they are chatting up copper mining in Superior. The issues are easy and obvious, but that does not stop other politicos from jabbing each other.

Kirkpatrick is a Democrat representing District 1, including Camp Verde. Gosar is a Republican representing District 4, including Cottonwood. Neither is politically middle-of-the-road. Letting bygones be bygones is not the Beltway way, but it seems to be working for these two, at least on the small scale.

Kirkpatrick and Gosar just need to take it a giant step forward and lend the even-handedness and even-mindedness to the lightning-rod issues.

What makes that difficult is the displeasure of their party leaders. Republican honchos are particularly unhappy with Gosar's reaching across the aisle when they consider Kirkpatrick's seat to be vulnerable in the next election. News flash: An AZ1 representative will always be vulnerable in a district comprised of Republican strongholds and Democrat strongholds.

For the moment, maybe until the next election, Gosar and Kirkpatrick seem to understand that teamwork is not collusion or abandoning principles. Teamwork is a sign of something functioning, even in Congress.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, September 4, 2013
Article comment by: Mary Heartman

@ Frank Henry
Maybe we could start on a local level. There is no reason why Yavapai County can't return to the voting methods that served residents well for most of the last century, and it's an absolute outrage that Arizona State Law now mandates "mail only" ballots for odd-year elections.

Here we have controversial school overrides that affect the entire upper valley. And the County won't know how many ballots arrived at their intended destination, who filled them out, how many mailed them back to the County, and what happened to those that didn't come back. No point worrying about hand-counts vs. machine counts. These ballots aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Why bother counting them at all?

However, I don't think U.S. Representatives Gosar or Kirkpatrick can (or should) do much about this. The County Supervisors and State Representatives need to be galvanized.


Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Henry

mh, good response. The key question is how do
we gain "Full Voting Rights" for every voter.


Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2013
Article comment by: Gregory Aston

I support the adjustment of the Survey errors, Four Forests Initiative, & Land Exchange. It's refreshing to see that a Democrat & a Republican can work together on something!

Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013
Article comment by: gary chamberlain

Not buying but,

Since I hope we are all self reliant folks, I'm sincerely hoping that we would be willing to meet and search for our common relevance or common ground.

Heck, the first time we do this we could just discuss the weather .... that's a safe subject isn't it?

We could discuss the one-eye I have in the middle of my forehead.

Phil, it was nice talking to you on the phone a few days ago.

Who is willing to meet at Randall's Restaurant or ???????

Gary Chamberlain
Cornville AZ


Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013
Article comment by: Does anyoneknow where m j

... is getting his litanies of right-wing mis-info?

Based on earlier writings from this less than scholarly unknown person, his best efforts at offering an opinion were usually, and I quote, at the "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha," level.

I now note complete sentences and an almost surreal ability to quote sources.

That can't be the m j we all know and... and... and... are forced to tolerate.

pf


Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013
Article comment by: An Other MJ

Conservative idiocy:

Former Rep. Joe Walsh (R. IL) celebrated the 50th anniversary of The March On Washington by telling blacks to stop depending on the government plantation.

Pat Robertson said that members of the gay community target people and infect them with AIDS using special rings.

Phylis Schafly wrote that new North Carolina laws to restrict voting are aimed at punishing democrats, not preventing voter fraud.

Rep Louis Gohmert (R. TX) said it's a "scary thought" that liberal elites might be culling the population using vaccines.

Conservative candidate for town selectman in Sabattus ME, David Marsters, posted a picture of President Obama with the caption, "Shoot The Ni#%}*r"


Posted: Friday, August 30, 2013
Article comment by: @ Frank Henry

Yes, it would help a lot if the security and privacy of our ballots weren't being steadily undermined by whichever party happens to be in power at the moment.

These political ploys don't just drive serious voters away from the polls. They make it impossible for conscientious representatives to know how many constituents actually support their platforms and how many were simply duped, or excluded, or over or under counted by their own party.

So what do we do about it, Frank Henry? Besides send a pat whenever our representative does something we approve and a rap whenever he or she doesn't. (That's an awful lot of postcards/posts when constituents should be getting on with something besides watching their politicians.)

mh


Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2013
Article comment by: M J

Liberal lunacy…

It must be Bush’s fault……
obama to attack Syria without U.N. approval, or approval from Congress, or the American people… Looking for an aspirin factory on Google maps….
Hail Hail to the Ruling Liberal King…..

To all you suckers who work……. Send more …..
Federal welfare benefits pay more than minimum wage jobs in 35 states, according to a new report from the Cato Institute.
Hawaii provides the most benefits, $49,175 a year. The District of Columbia provides the second highest, providing $43,099 a year.
For the hard-core welfare recipient, the value of the full range of welfare benefits substantially exceeds the amount the recipient could earn in an entry-level job. As a result, recipients are likely to choose welfare over work, thus increasing long-term dependence.

But not here…..?
Obama administration and Mexican officials discussed creating a three-tier security system designed to protect Mexico’s southern border from drug and human traffickers…
The border control plan calls for U.S. funding and technical support of three security lines extending more than 100 miles north of Mexico’s border with Guatemala and Belize. The border security system would use sensors and intelligence-gathering to counter human trafficking and drug running from the region….

Ho Hum …. Race fatigue has set in… Yawn……..
Sharpton at MLK March: We Must Beat “James Crow Jr., Esquire”…
MSNBC’s Krystal Ball (Krystal Ball? That sounds like a porn name) Says GOP Has “Taken the Place of Jim Crow” As Enemy of Black Americans…
Chris “Tingles” Matthews Accuses Obama’s Critics of Being Driven By Racism…
Liberal Bob Beckel: Anyone Who Wants Voter ID Laws Is A “Cracker”…
Jesse Jackson Says Tea Party “Is The Resurrection of The Confederacy”…
Maryland Dem Gov. Martin O’Malley: “Lives of People of Color Valued Less Than the Lives of White People”…

America’s only black Senator not invited to MLK event because he’s a Republican…
Noticeably absent from the speaker line-up at the Let Freedom Ring event commemorating the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington today: the nation’s only black Senator, Tim Scott.

NBC/WSJ poll: Americans who say race relations are good down 27 points since obama was elected, drops from 79% to 52%…

“Navigators” told to “Smile” when they sign people up for obamacare…
http://www.healthreformgps.org/wp-content/uploads/navigator-SOP-manual-8-26.pdf


Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2013
Article comment by: What Me Worry

The crowd waited for hours in the August heat so have their say. Her one on one approach was ridiculous when you saw the turnout. Why couldn't she answer to all at the same time?? Typical coward, run from the citizens.

Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013
Article comment by: Bill Bassett

"We certainly don’t want individual liberties now ….. Do we……..
Department of Defense (DOD) warns that some conservative organizations are “hate groups” … that “many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.” The documents repeatedly cite the leftwing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a resource for identifying “hate groups.”"

Do you deny it MJ? They walk among us, right here in the lovely Verde Valley.

As for the rest of your twaddle, ...ah, what's the use. I'll take Ryan's advice and not be rude.


Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2013
Article comment by: M J

Liberal lunacy…

White House Officials Say American Missile Strikes Against Syria Could Come “As Early As Thursday”…

December 20, 2007:
Q. In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress?
A. obama – the future Ruling Liberal King: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

Are they all inbred……?
obama’s New U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power skipped an emergency Security Council meeting on the alleged chemical gas attack in Syria to go on vacation to Ireland … She attended a Charlie Chaplin Film Festival….. Where her husband, Cass Sunstein, was giving a talk at said Film Festival…..

CNN: Chris Cuomo interviewed the Ruling Liberal King…. The highlights were Malia and Sasha growing up to be teenagers and the President's new dog Sunny defecating on the White House rug…. Nice softball questions after the Ruling Liberal King spent Thursday hanging out with Chris Cuomo's brother, the Democratic Governor of New York…..

Congressional Black Caucus Chair Rep. Marcia Fudge: Americans More Intolerant Since Obama Elected, Conservatives Using Racist “Buzzwords”…
Isn’t there some irony in the fact that she is chair of the Congressional Black Caucus… but there is no white congressional caucus… could you imagine the liberal shrieking if there was …….?

Forever 21 stores to cap employees’ work week hours at 29.5. Thanks obamacare.

We certainly don’t want individual liberties now ….. Do we……..
Department of Defense (DOD) warns that some conservative organizations are “hate groups” … that “many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.” The documents repeatedly cite the leftwing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a resource for identifying “hate groups.”

More insane California stuff
(Reuters) – Immigrants who are legally in the United States but not citizens would be allowed to serve on juries in California under a bill passed by the state legislature on Friday…..

Who says race baiting doesn’t pay……..
Sharpton’s “Civil Rights” Group the National Action Network, Pays Him $241K per Year Plus Expenses…

Read: Witness, W. Chambers


Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Article comment by: M J

Liberal lunacy…

More Liberals who can only think with their genitals….

NYC Dem Mayoral Candidate Wants to Give Morning-After Pill To 11-Year-Old Girls in City’s Schools… It “can make some people uncomfortable,” but City Council Speaker Christine Quinn says she’s open to allowing middle-school girls as young as 11 to receive the morning-after contraceptive pill…..

Susan Sarandon: 'You Can't Just Vote Your Vagina'….

Some Wis. schools reportedly to teach fourth graders about masturbation….. readin’ … writin’… masturbation…

Will they be wearing Soviet style uniforms….?
Planned Parenthood’s obamacare “Navigators” To Be Given Access to Every Americans’ Personal, Medical, Tax Information

Obama Calls for Federal Government to Rank Colleges, Financially Punish or Reward Schools Based on Their Ranking… nationalizing next ……?

Hyperbole … or old fashioned BS?
Al “the crazed sex poodle” Gore said that “the fingerprint of man-made global warming is all over” storms like hurricanes and other extreme weather events. “The extreme events are more extreme. The hurricane scale used to be 1-5 and now they’re adding a 6,” he said…..
National Weather Service spokesman: “No, we’re not pursuing any such change.”

Comrade barry – the economy is doing fine……
U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development: Sales of new single-family houses in July 2013 were at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 394,000, according to estimates released jointly today by the U.S. Census Bureau and the Department of Housing and Urban Development. This is 13.4 percent (±14.5%)* below the revised June rate of 455,000....

Some folks are a bit slower than others.....

2,000 members of the Boilermakers Union in Western Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia, claimed the president is waging a war on coal. The union head charges that new EPA regulations will cost 400 jobs in Southwestern Pennsylvania…..

AFL-CIO In Nevada Passes Resolution Blasting obamacare For “Destroying” Union Health Care…“the Administration has postured on proposals to address the problem, but no proposal to date will actually solve the problem. Our health plans only get worse.”

More of that famous liberal compassion…..
Iowa City: 30-year-old Man Chun John Ma punched a 78-year-old female in the back while she was holding an anti-abortion sign… Ma told officers he found anti-abortion strange and admitted that he knew his actions were wrong…. Ma has been charged with a serious misdemeanor count of assault causing bodily injury.


Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Article comment by: Phil Falbo

@ Gary C.

You wonder what would happen if we got together?

For many, me included, it would merely put a face to an 'idiot's' name.

How can one resist?

You buying?

C'mon Brian, m j, Mary Jane, Jim, nutso, Slater x 2, Danny, all you famous anonymous gals/guys and Dale.. C'mon, you know you want to...



Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Article comment by: gary chamberlain

All dressed up,

I wonder what would happen if every person that ever wrote a editorial, editorial response or opposing editorial response showed up for breakfast together and got to know each other ..... what would happen?

Just a thought ..... especially if you had to use your real and alias name.

Set the date, time and place and I'll be there. It could be a Verde Valley event with a good outcome.

Gary Chamberlain
FolksvilleUSA@gmail.com
928-202-1186
Cornville AZ


Posted: Monday, August 26, 2013
Article comment by: Mary Heartman

@ It seems to me
But then how does any representative resolve wedge issues? There has to be a little "collusion" between people who know the legislation and have thought the issue through.



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