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6/18/2013 11:54:00 AM
Letter: Is it a river or an irrigation ditch?

Editor:

I would like to know if there are any limits on the amount of the river the ditch association is allowed to divert? The diversion dam below Tuzigoot appears to divert close to 100 percent of the water.

Richard Hileman

Clarkdale


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013
Article comment by: if your town does not have a spectacle to attract the tourista's-

Make one... maybe a water park is the next step in marketing? Forget sustainability parks...water is the new marketing catchword?

Come one come all
Watch the water sparkle and fall

Glints and glimmers
Sparkles and shimmers

Stop your fancy cars
Your mercedes and bimmers

Come take a ride on the verde
Before it's over run and really dirty

Suck it all up while you can
It's part of the long term plan
A bird in the bush is worth 2 in the hand...

Or the lake or the river
Don't it just make you shiver?


Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013
Article comment by: Yippee Kayak

In late March the Hickey Ditch diversion dam was built up two feet higher, using huge rocks that had been trucked in.

It was suggested at the April 10 meeting of the Clarkdale Parks and Recreation Commission that the river was going to "cut its own channel" to allow boaters to continue downstream without portage, and that this would probably occur "within two more weeks" or "sooner if kids start shoveling or moving rocks."

Anyone who has viewed the dam or the still-flooded upstream pool knows such speculation was unfounded. The river is currently roaring over sharp rocks far too large to be moved by any kids who lack a heavy bucket loader.

There is the beginning of another channel, but it's flowing over soil in the bank next to the rock spillway. It appears that the next flood will quickly cut this down to be the main channel and possibly take down some trees next to the rock dam.

(Hopefully this dramatic event will not occur until after the wheelchair-access concrete walkway to a 'viewing stage' next to the dam is complete, so that disabled visitors will be able to enjoy the spectacle.)


Posted: Friday, June 21, 2013
Article comment by: Mel Burke - vitriol towards a single person ain't the way to go or the answer.....

@ Mel Burke - the Cottonwood Ditch Association is administered by the Association and the shareholders to these historic water rights. Your foolishness speaks for itself in calling out an individual (as you have repeatedly done I believe) as if he was doing everything on his own. Your agenda and vitriol you have to spread around is quite clear and abominable.

Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2013
Article comment by: Mel Burke

The real issue is whether the 10.6 cfs limit is being met with the lack of sufficiently accurate sluice gates. As it stands, Groseta is doing what he's entitled to do. "Pressure" of flow is determined by the variable level of the river. It's sort of a non issue . . . Unless anyone measures his "take" and proves he's taking more than 10.6 cfs, nothing really can be done!

Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2013
Article comment by: Mel Burke

The law says Grosetta is entitled to take 10.6 cubic-feet-per-second from the river for the Cottonwood Ditch Association.

Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2013
Article comment by: Richard Hileman

I think that I need clarify my position. I'm not trying to start a newspaper flame war, I'm trying to understand this situation. I'm not an enemy of the ditch assoc, I understand the importance of agriculture in the valley,and the necessity of water to that effort. However agriculture isn't the only use of the river that can bring money to the valley. Recreational use of the river can also generate revenue. I think it's worth discussing all possible uses of the river.

Posted: Wednesday, June 19, 2013
Article comment by: Susan Fox

Good question, Richard.
I'm sure someone will step up and answer this question. It would be a shame for the river to dry up so a few people can keep their pastures green.


Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013
Article comment by: Thank AZ Water Laws

Its frustrating, isn't it! You can thank AZ's antiquated water laws for that! The Cottonwood Ditch Association has some of the oldest water right claims in the Verde Valley, and its good that we keep them right here locally! Unfortunately, their irrigation practices are about as old as their rights. The ditch company probably takes as much water today as they always have ... the sad part is that the river is flowing much less today than it was a hundred years ago...thus the dewatering of the river below the ditch. And, no, there is no "agency" responsible for monitoring the actual amount of water taken from the river.

The good news is that other Verde Valley ditches (down in Camp Verde) are demonstrating new techniques that can be used to provide the ditch shareholders with the water that they need, and still leave some additional water in the river. Lets hope the Cottonwood Ditch sees the value in learning from its other Verde Valley counterparts and being a partner in the effort to maintain their ditch rights and provide more water for the river.

Quite frankly, I know a lot of people that have irrigation rights on the Cottonwood Ditch that are more than willing to explore new ways to both provide irrigation water and keep more water in the river. They aren't dumb! They know the river is the lifeblood of this valley, and not just for keeping their lawns green.

Make friends with a ditch owner. They aren't half bad! And I bet you'll find them willing to work towards a solution. But accusing and fighting it out in the newspaper ain't gonna do the trick!




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