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7/13/2013 3:20:00 PM
Cottonwood Council talks pool fees with Mingus

COTTONWOOD -- Back before the Cottonwood Council Tuesday is the agreement for the Mingus Union High School swimming program to use the outdoor competition pool. The board had tabled the agreement earlier in the wake of a dispute between city staff members and Mingus officials over the costs. This time, the council will have the final decision.

During the June 4 council meeting, Mingus High representatives, led by Board President and attorney Jim Ledbetter, argued against the city's proposed increase of fees to the high school for use of the pool, saying they were not justified. The city had asked for a 10 percent increase in the fees for the period Mingus uses outdoor pool from August through November from $8,500 to $9,350. The costs represent 50 percent of the actual operational costs, according to the city.

Last week, Cottonwood's manager and Community Services manager met with the school superintendent, but the outcome was similar. While both sides want to see the swimming program continue, the city need meet its pool maintenance and operations costs and the school district needs to keep the program within its budget.

This time around, the council has been given an agreement with amounts not designated to be filled as the board agrees.

The agreement carries the wording that the City would like to see that all costs each year be reviewed and unilaterally shared by both including all costs of pool chemicals, electricity, gas, water, sewer, maintenance operations, and custodial operations costs be shared equally between the two agencies. But, in a separate agreement, if funding is not available to the school district to discharge its financial obligations, the parties shall attempt to renegotiate the terms of this agreement related to payment of utilities so as to establish or identify a source of funding.

-- Jon Hutchinson

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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2013
Article comment by: Ineffectiveness At work

So it's been said there is a booster. But the simple fact is it must be so ineffective that it's been rendered completely unnoticed! Perhaps they need to organize team car washes, as I have seen every other clubs members out doing this at one point or another but never a swim team member. Stop whining about having to pay a REDUCED fee and fundraise to offset costs incurred. Teach them how to work for what you want in a world that is usually unfair. Handouts are few and far between in life.

Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2013
Article comment by: @ the @ guy...gal? -

Hard to tell what you love more, swimming or loving to hate on the city?

The comment you replied to was a quote from 5 years ago. Perhaps there was not a swim team but was mingus using the pool for its PE classes or in another form?

Maybe when folks start to love the swim team more than hate the city good things will happen. It's hard to see your way to helping somebody who just keeps poking you in the eye.


Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2013
Article comment by: @ Thank you to those that DO

Here is the problem once again, the Cottonwood Parks and Rec Dept obviously has a problem with getting facts straight. THERE WAS NO MINGUS SWIM TEAM UNTIL 1996 and so why should MUHS have contributed starting in 1990?? This is the same thing we keep seeing over and over, numbers inflated, hours of use inflated, # of years inflated. Hard to trust them when practically all the info put out there is FALSE.

Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013
Article comment by: Thank you to those that DO


A few years ago, August 16,2008, there was an editorial that spoke of Cottonwood’s competitive swimmers’ character, dignity, fortitude, and their ability to put their money where their mouths are. They had plans for fund raising campaigns, for grants and donations to make the pool more effective for larger competitions.

They were not looking for a hand out from the City of Cottonwood or anyone else. Rather a genuine effort to follow their dreams and the needs of an ever-growing competitive swimming community. They desired a commitment form Mingus Union High School, whose student athletes “flourished” in the then inadequate facilities.

Yes, the times have changed, or perhaps maybe not. At the time, the Parks & Recreation director indicated "Mingus has not contributed towards pool operations, pool mechanical repairs, staffing costs or chemical components" from 1990-2008. Based on recent news articles this has not changed.

The banter in 2008 was “It's time for Mingus to ante up”. It sounds like the Clippers are making progress as a positive partner.

Perseverance, character and dignity seemed to be the effort back in the day. Knowing many of these students, I still see those characteristics in many of them. Yet the politicians and administrators speak so passionately at their microphones and behind their desks strategizing their political gamesmanship, mudslinging and grandstanding. Who will the next round of students look up to? Those that teach and mentor them to work hard, learn apply themselves, find solutions to their problems or stick their hand out waiting for someone to fill it with something.


Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013
Article comment by: Rather than bashing- -

In the same number of letters you used to bash the city you could have directed folks to your club's website or even given contact info for folks to donate to your cause...

What was the saying about vinegar and honey?

We could all use a little sweetening up from time to time.



Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013
Article comment by: @ two words for swim team supporters

There is a booster club but just because there is a booster club does not mean that the city has the right to inflate pricing and hours that the swim team are using the pool. The # of hours they are charging the swim team for are ludicrous and the chemicals and other charges are ludicrous as well. The swim team should not have to make up for the cities poor planning in building the rec center and make up for their lack of profit in any way!!

Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013
Article comment by: 2 words for the swim team supporters -

Booster Club

If the supporters of the team/sport are passionate enough to keep pursuing an additional 50% discount on the originally agreed to 50% discount... then they should have the resources to do the same as other sports/clubs at the school and start a booster club, make a program and sell add space, sell add space on banners at the pool as the city has advised they could do.

Rather than continue to give the school/city relationship additional black eyes call up the Red Dot club and ask for some advice, or the basket ball boosters or the wrestling boosters.

The examples are out there, they are working, follow the lead and proceed.




Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2013
Article comment by: Slater Slater

With all the athletic super stars at Mingus
the powers that be need to find a way.Sports
in schools are the last thing that needs to be scrubed.Sports promote pride and sportsman-
ship.Which now a days is rare.
Competition brings out character.




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