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1/8/2013 9:58:00 AM
Governor refuses to support immigration reform until border is secure
Gov. Brewer:
Gov. Brewer: "We can talk to the people that are affected personally by the border. And when they say that border is secure, then I think that we can rest peacefully.'

Howard Fischer
Capitol Media Services


PHOENIX -- Gov. Jan Brewer can't put a specific definition on what it means to have a secure border.

But she said residents along the boundary with Mexico will know it when it happens.

The question of what Brewer thinks is politically significant since the governor said she will not support any form of immigration reform unless and until the border is secure. But until now she has offered no definition of what that means.

Her comments come as members of her own Republican Party in Congress are pursuing their own immigration reform plans in the wake of the defeat of presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

One of the places Romney -- and many Republicans -- came up short last year was that the emerging Latino vote went strongly for President Obama and Democrats. And that has caused some in the GOP to reexamine what it would take to prevent a repeat the next election.

In a statement following the November election, Brewer cheered the fact that illegal immigration is once again at the fore of the national dialog. But she said Congress should not rush to a solution that only makes things worse.

"Right now there are well-meaning people, including some in my own party, who are advocating a grand bargain in which the American people would be promised border security in exchange for the granting of amnesty to tens of millions of illegal aliens,' the governor said in a prepared statement.

"We've been here before,' she continued, citing the 1986 deal passed during the Reagan administration where about three million gained U.S. citizenship.

"The border was never secured,' Brewer said. Now, she wants that done first. And only at that point, Brewer said, should Congress address the broader issues of immigration.

On Monday, pushed for what she would consider secure, Brewer said a starting point would be to make the entire border as secure as the Yuma sector.

The Yuma sector which covers about 126 miles from the west end of Pima County to the Imperial Sand Dunes in California had about 5,800 apprehensions in a 10-month period ending last July 31. By comparison, the 262-mile Tucson sector which covers the balance of Arizona had more than 105,000.

"I think that would be a goal,' Brewer said Monday. But the governor said the real test is whether those along the border feel secure.

"We can talk to the people that are affected personally by the border,' she said. "And when they say that border is secure, then I think that we can rest peacefully.'

Members of Congress, however, may not be willing to wait until that point.

In a commentary for The Arizona Daily Star, Sen. John McCain, the state's senior senator, pointed out that illegal immigration is at an all-time low. He said that presents an opportunity to provide the technology and resources "to finally secure the border for good.'

But McCain did not set absolute security as a precursor for other action, saying he wants to work "as border security improves' on addressing the estimated 11 million people living in this country illegally.

And newly elected Sen. Jeff Flake, in a similar commentary, said while improved border security is important, so is setting up a temporary worker program to ensure that businesses have the labor they need "along with a realistic mechanism to deal with those working here illegally.'

Brewer said Monday she has not been contacted by any member of Congress about their plans. But the governor said she is watching "and, hopefully, in agreement with them.'



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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2013
Article comment by: two cents

Start prosecuting anyone that employees illegals and stop giving welfare to illegals.

Our state has created a problem that has become job security for welfare programs that were intended for americans and not illegal aliens. The state government complains loudly in the press about illegal immigration, when in truth it is just a smokescreen to hide whats really going on with the states welfare system. It is just another way to hide, divert, and misappropriate state and federal taxe money.
The sooner this state replaces its so-called leaders, the better.


Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: Phil Falbo

@ O Z

A wizard you ain't.

Since I only spent two years in San Luis, AZ as Project Manager for the construction of a Commercial Land Port of Entry for the US Dept. of Homeland Security (DHS) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP), I am sure you know more about border security than I do.

After all, I bet you watched "Border Wars," a time or two.

What you think you know about the US border and border security, I learned in the first two minutes on the project.

You haven't a clue about many things, sir/madam/other, and at the top of your very long "ignorant list" is this item: what I know.

You are correct about one thing: phony, ignorant and arrogant people like you cannot be educated.





Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: me thinks that MJ protests too much... .

and researches too little...

but he does know a bunch about mcflys...

the research is out there... and the one who needs attempts at convincing is you.

go sing your la la song and move along...

come back once you are prepared for the facts... 'billions and billions' don't exist.

indeed...


Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: M J

Re: reasonable reproach?
You stated, "and how much of the 'literal billions' are coming from the federal govt?"
You do know that ALL the money, no matter which fund it comes out of, is money from the taxpayer don't you..... this might come as a shock to you .... but ALL the money the federal gubmint has comes from the taxpayer .... what ... you thought it came out of the sky or something? ...

You also stated, "even if there has been a net export of those folks under the current admin? " .... so according to your pretzel logic ..... that means we the taxpayer are not paying for illegals even thou there is a "net export"? ..... really? ..... HaHaHaHaHaHa .....

You also stated, "blame them for not helping secure the border?"
HELLOOOO McFly ..... that is their job .... you know .... secure the country .....

And the best I saved for last ..... "and are you counting the dollars that those folks pay into a retirement system they can't access- thus extending your benefits? " ....... HELLLLOOOOOOOO ...... "those folks" don't pay federal taxes, thus causing a drain on the system .... HELLLLOOOOO McFly ..........

"As a matter of fact I was dropped on my head while a child and hit on the head with several rocks, too."
December 29, 2012 John A. Bond


Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: O Z

Hear Here WV Marine!!! I Agree!!! How about we put Phony Falbo, Mary Jane and the wanna be Verde Valley Prophet John Bond on the border for just one day to help keep illegals out. They MIGHT think differently and learn something with some hands on education. Oh, wait a minute you can't educate people who think they know everything!

Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: reasonable reproach? .

so you are sure that you and i the hardworking taxpayers are spending 'literally billions' of dollars on those that are coming over the boarder? even if there has been a net export of those folks under the current admin?

and are you counting the dollars that those folks pay into a retirement system they can't access- thus extending your benefits?

and how much of the 'literal billions' are coming from the federal govt?

keep waggin those finger's all you jan suporters... hey how about jan gets some skin in the game and pony up some of those donated dollars in jan-pac to help seal the border? funny how feds are so useless yet you all will side and blame them for not helping secure the border?

which is it? do you want their help or not?

and that website that mr. marine posted? wow... avoid that page folks... there will be black helicopters hovering over your house if you go there... shady....

5j176j


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: I have heard that being a Marine

from WV and a proclaimed Viet Nam vet imbues one with special powers to be the only person with the 'right' opinion on almost everything and to tell dissenting opinions to "shut up."

Years ago, when I was returning from 'Nam, some dumb jarhead told me it is printed the last page of the "How to Be a Good Marine" rule book, in the fine print, under the heading "Delusions suffered by that cute Navy subcult that make them think they are special."

That you would consider calling Jan Brewer 'great' speaks to the obviously expansive limits of your knowledge.


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: Reasonable Approach

You and I, the taxpayers of Arizona, spend literally billions of our hard-earned dollars to educate, medicate, and incarcerate illegals in this State. It is an enormous drag financially, and creates an intolerable security issue in the southern half of the state.

The federal government has done much, but needs to do more to solve this unfair situation. This is what Jan Brewer is saying.

I support that. I also support reasonable reform like Senators Flake and McCain describe.

What I do not support is amnesty, which is unfair to the millions of people around the world who are patiently waiting their turn in line to come legally to this country, trying to do it the right way.


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: Lance Sjogren

"Gov. Jan Brewer can't put a specific definition on what it means to have a secure border."

But we ought to all be able to agree that a border over which people cross illegally by the thousands is not a secure border.


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: Russ G

A "secure" border would mean a VERY small percentage of attempted border jumpers succeed in getting into the US. It would mean that the coyotes. the human smuggling industry South of the Border..is shut down b/c there are no customers. It would mean that the Mexican government no longer encourages its poor and uneducated to enter the US illegally. Yes, Americans and Arizonans would indeed KNOW a secure border when they see it. Until then, you have the Status Quo...cheap labor for the Big Biz wing of the GOP, and "undocumented Democrats" for the Far Left.

Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: WV Marine

From the comments left so far, you buttheads, if you actually live in Arizona, don't know your butts from a hole in the ground. Just go to www.americanpatrol.com and read, if you can read English. There you will find the real story of what is happening on the border. You all should be ashamed for spewing out garbage against your great governor. As a Vietnam Vet Marine, I challenge you liberal dummies to read the truth and, then, apologize to your governor. Otherwise, keep your liberal lies to yourself. NO AMNESTY. BUILD A FENCE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BORDER. ENFORCE ALL LAWS. ARREST AND DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Article comment by: Mary Jane

Why is it that the GOP always have to have their butts handed to them in an election before they start talking with reason?

Also, it seems pretty silly to be quoting Gov. Brewer on matters of real concern to citizens of our great state. She's qualified to do little more than answer phones and maybe run the copier at the Capital office. I can't wait for her attempt at a 3rd run for the governors office!


Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Article comment by: Barnaby Wild

Jan wants to secure the border first. All that will be required is to convince the Tea Party folks in Congress to agree to spend $7000 million ($7 billion) to hire legal workers to do the job.

Jeff Flake, a fiscal conservative, doesn't want to spend taxpayer's money to keep out workers which are needed by employers.

Jeff, talk some sense into Jan will you?


Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Article comment by: Phil Falbo

What Jan is saying:

"Like so many other aspects of governing, I don't have a clue what to do to 'secure the border."

"BUT!!!! I am going to retch about it and wag fingers in black president's faces until THEY try to something about it."

"THEN, I'll retch about how the border still isn't secure and how the Federal government didn't do their duty and how us Zonies have states' rights and can act unilaterally, even though I don't know what to do and don't have the money anyway."

"That is what I am really saying."

"Oh, and please re-elect me since I am so tough on illegal immigrants!"

"OH!, and, uh, what was the question?"




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