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6/15/2013 2:54:00 PM
USGS to present Groundwater Model in Cottonwood
City officials say there has been some disagreement over interpretation of the groundwater model and its use and they want to hear about the model “straight from the horse’s mouth.”
City officials say there has been some disagreement over interpretation of the groundwater model and its use and they want to hear about the model “straight from the horse’s mouth.”

Jon Hutchinson
Staff Reporter


COTTONWOOD -- Officials from the USGS, which developed the Northern Arizona Regional Groundwater-Flow Model, will present that model to the city council and the public Tuesday afternoon.

The Cottonwood Council has scheduled the presentation at a special meeting at 4 p.m.

This year, the USGS prepared a report on the effects on the Verde Valley hydrologic system.

City officials say there has been some disagreement over interpretation of the groundwater model and its use and they want to hear about the model "straight from the horse's mouth."

An April 11th presentation in Camp Verde was presented by the Verde River Basin Partnership.

The special meeting will precede the regular Cottonwood Council meeting at 6 p.m.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013
Article comment by: @ cogito.. .

since you seem to know the answers to all the questions... why do you bother to ask them?

Is it possible that groups change over time and perhaps ~your~ group is not what it once was?

if only for proving that you are some how superior then you might want to consider that you are hewing a bit close to your moniker and its inspirator, it was Descartes that started with cogito ergo sum (i think there for i am) and ended up at cogito ergo sumatra (i think i am an island).

You seem intent on the negative only and holding yourself as an island above all those below you.

You might need to come back down and rub some elbows with the common folk.

Consider viewing your position from the eyes of someone who is not clouded by emotion or so deep into the subject that they 'know it all'.


Posted: Monday, June 17, 2013
Article comment by: Cogito Ergosumatra

@Danged if you do...: So it was the fact that a "special interest group" held the meeting? Are you aware that the City of Cottonwood is a member of that special interest group? And that their Mayor has sat on their coordinating committee? Or that the USGS will now have to pay travel, meals, etc. just because Cottonwood couldn't show up and be mistaken for agreeing with science?

And how about that sentence, "City officials say there has been some disagreement over interpretation of the groundwater model and its use...", now where have I heard that before? Oh, right, it was from Prescott & Prescott Valley, two other communities who also have a stake in science being perceived as wrong. This is shameless.


Posted: Monday, June 17, 2013
Article comment by: Dang if you don't- Danged if you do!

From the outside looking in it's so predictable- somebody does not attend the meeting sponsored by special interest group the outrage ensues.

Somebody arranges for same presentation without the special interest group hosting and the outrage continues.

And people question why?

Why indeed.


Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2013
Article comment by: KPK 225

First off when it comes to water I understand we are to have a big price jump.
I see they are not happy just a few people came to that first meeting.
I do not understand the bond, but if they have already decided why should I go?
Now there is a USGS meeting to tell us all about the ground water.
My guess is not enough people went to camp Verde to have there story told.
I would like to think the USGS was telling us the truth but I wonder.
After I looking into the Walton family foundation that gave Clarkdale over 400 thousand to come up with the results they wanted to see.
One wonder if anyone is tell the truth.
If you go to there web page they are not shy about telling you how you are to put out info. to the public to win them over.
So as to my longer view.
That would be the control of the people or Agenda 21.


Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Henry

The Camp Verde presentation was a text book
theory of ground and surface (rivers, streams,
ponds,...,etc) inter/intra relation....mainly as
ground water is pumped to lower levels...rivers,
streams, ponds,...,etc WILL go dry.

The presenters at the Camp Verde meeting were
unable (due to lack of real data) to say if Verde
Valley would go "DRY" in 1 week, or 1 month,
or 1 year, or 1 decade, or 1 century.

Maybe they will have some info on Tuesday.

Thanks and Good Luck.


Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2013
Article comment by: Cogito Ergosumatra

Too bad the USGS didn't come up here from Tucson to present this to more than 400 people...oh, they did? Then I hope Cottonwood is paying the bill for their travel and time to repeat what everyone else bothered to show up for.



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